I remember when Starbird was a UW Husky basketball player. Makes you wonder the process of how these Deep State players become so entrenched into the system. I get the UW/Gates connection but how are these people approached and groomed, “hey, nice jump shot, want to rule the world.” 😂
probably multi-faceted. i suspect she has had some psychological trauma. sexual abuse probably, that is manipulated, exploited. not dissimilar to most everything else involving human psychology. sales. marketing. desire. coveting. what spiritual hole is most obvious? what spiritual hole is most susceptible?
The concept you pose here, "However, the danger of censorship will always outweigh the danger of free speech. Bad information should be allowed to be broken down and debated in public, where everyone’s understanding of the truth can be enriched and additional opinions can be offered.", makes me think about the conversations of our Founding Fathers and they were in-depth thinkers of their time.
Whether before or after the election, this will be something we Americans will have to think about and work through. Hopefully, the last 8 years has given us exercise in this endeavor. This was recently illustrated to me through a show of my favs on my fav media when my needle skipped off my record and scratched my surface. Cognitive Dissonance for me.
First and most important for me: I am and have always been a firm believer in President Trump and his leadership. In whatever form or crazy route it takes or whom he has on the ride with him at the time. Humanity depends on him if we are not to devolve into yesterday's speck of dust on yet another rock in the Universe.
Second is my intense life long interest in Space. Having grown up with an Aerospace engineer (Not NASA btw) from the 1930's in Michigan (home of my birthplace) I came upon that piece of conversation where influencers yet again share with many viewers their strong belief that the Moon Landing was fake and just a movie. Also, said news opinions are strong followers of President Trump. So we have two people from California who love our President Trump yet totally have come to a completely different view of Space. Q has stated on a post that the Moon Landings are real and in another post that considering the vastness of space, we are not alone.
Does this mean one of the two people's views are disseminating disinformation? Both have the free speech right to do so. One topic and we are off to the races again. At least we must attempt to do our homework regarding Space. I applaud you Ryan for doing your homework on this Disinformation occupation. Look forward to more to come.
Information which is factually wrong is only disinformation if the speaker knows it is wrong and repeats it with intent to deceive. Otherwise, it is only a difference of opinion; and though it is possible for two takes to be mutually incompatible, that does not make either disinformation so long as the speakers believe what they are saying.
Since intent is difficult to prove, absent some sort of context, categorizing statements as 'disinformation' is problematic.
Which is why the only real solution to 'bad speech' is more speech. Let everyone have their say, and let the people figure it out.
But TPTB don't like that; [they] want you to believe whatever they say. And they hate being challenged.
Seems to me that there is a common thread amongst all of these disinformation czar-wannabs... they tend to fancy themselves well educated (more so than the average Joe) and as such actually know what's best for the great unwashed masses. Why they've gone to the best schools and in doing so have earned the moniker of "elite". Problem is that these dolts are "well educated" but not very intelligent. They can remember and spit out all of the BS that they have learned but they can't go beyond this point. (Layer on top of this the DEI crap and the situation gets worse). If you ever want to laugh your ass off - attend a Harvard alumni event....talk about pompous snobs who know precious little. Ok enough bloviating.... point is that these people are dangerous and are too stupid to know just how evil they are. Pax
True! I remember some statistics back in the day that equated newspapers to a 6th grade reading level…. I wonder if the study was done by an Ivy League grad…
You are SO RIGHT on most of the harvard grads--or MBA-holders from Harvard! My former boss had a harvard MBA and she was an in-your-face Leftist who actually spouted to me that Voter ID was discriminatory because black and poor people couldn't get ID... I was so incredulous and called her on it instantly. I questioned HOW people on welfare could get their checks, bank accounts, or buy alcohol or cigs WITHOUT ID....everyone has ID. She STILL didn't get it. Taht was THE most RACIST thing that ever came out of her mouth and she had NO CLUE. She had no clue about a lot of things! So glad I left that position. This was a good article and I question the charts' validity as to the number of 'republican's' who had stated they wee in favor of censorship--on either count. I don't know one single one that is for censorship. Everyone I know is for FREE SPEECH. Additionally, I live in the greater Seattle area! Not everyone is a liberal or leftist hack--however most of the CA transplants are living in la-la land! Whenever I am at a party, I am one of the few or only locals born and raised here. Things have truly changed--and NOT for the better.
These so called elitists biggest form of prejudice is the bigotry of low expectation. They literally think that all POC are the same - that they all walk lock-stepped (and are dumb). THese "elitists" are nothing more than "ass clowns". Likewise, though living in Seattle is beautiful....I'm not too sure I could handle the intellectual wasteland that it occupies. Interestingly, there is a good chance that all of this is about to change. Good times make weak people....that lead to hard times. Methinks that reality is going to be very harsh on these folks. Keep the faith. Pax
YES! God is going to CLEAN HOUSE of all the traitors. Many will be visited by the Angel of Death and we will no longer be able to find them! Gov't will go down to 10% so 90% will be gone; irrelevant or dead. Our money will change back to GOLD-backed and we have an abundance of it. The wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous! I live on the eastside now, thankfully! Everyone I strike up convos with is Conservative! Even the younger folks! I do have such high hopes for humanity and my faith is at an all time high! We were born for such a time as this! God hand-picked all of us to be here for the greatest show on earth! I stand ready to do my part and I am staying prayed up until God decides He's had a gutfull and CRUSHES all evil. Blessings to you, as well!
Yes, and these self proclaimed fact checkers may also be unstable, as many suffer from the Trump Derangement Syndrome in addition to the run-of-the-mill god complex. I’m with you, Ryan, on relegating these folks to the trash bin, if they weren’t so hilariously close-minded.
Those votes in the Michigan county were indeed changed. Our Dem Attorney General says not to worry, it was just a clerical error. You can claim it was just a mistake but you can't claim it didn't happen. Michigan resident/
I believe they were fixed. It was really only found because a deep red county in a sea of red counties flipped blue. The real problem was the gazillion ballots delivered by truck in the middle of the night to Detroit. You're a conspiracy theorist is you bring that up.
Okay. I stopped at Nina Jankowicz. Mostly because these two Jankowicz and Starbird will very soon be irrelevant. But, I thought this would be important to know for your audience. Both Starbird are MTF trans. I am an expert Transvestigater, but my skill wasn't needed here. As the song says "just one look, is all it took". All that's needed is awareness. What do I mean? When looking at anyone with the CIA or it's affiliates (MSM, Hollywood, TV, even your local TV, etc.) assume you are being presented with a trans. They are truly trying to eliminate real women. Now that you see it, you can't Unsee it! These two were very easy to spot!
Thanks Ryan! As always, your thorough and thoughtful approach provides the kind of foundational information that makes it comfortable (if not enjoyable) to engage in (or at least attempt to engage) rational conversation with the unwitting foot-soldiers of the 1984 brigade.
This is where mass formation psychosis turns into dystopian nightmare for me. The fact that 1/3 of the right leaning population beleives that big tech SHOULD BE censoring public discourse is horrifying. To me. People used to be prickly about their privacy, they valued it and held it tightly. Then they accepted "I've done nothing wrong, so I've nothing to hide." and now they've already jumped into the pot of accepting - demanding - online censorship EVEN IN SPITE OF all the COVID disinfo we suffered from 2019 to now.
"28% of Republicans—a much lower number, but still one out of every four—believe that the government has the right and should be performing this function.
Now we know what percentage of Republicans are RINOs. 28%.
There was no attribution of the data. I don't believe it one bit. probably more into the single digits on the PRO and high double digits on the AGAINST censorship. I was never consulted for a survey.
That 1/3 may be the new converts since Biden, lets hope. They may just have one leg off of the plantation or half their head out of their ###. Education is required BIGTIME!
I think a lot of them might actually be naive enough, or stupid enough, to think, "Well, then we would only get the truth, and not all those dangerous lies."
And I find it really telling that they keep getting these young whacko's to be the arbitors or TRUTH....WHY NOT someone with WISDOM and EXPERIENCE who is in the 70-80's? Although NO ONE from current or former CONgress need apply!
The belief that both Government and Tech should censor speech is based on past evidence that the left can control the outcome, a capability which has been lost long ago. They assume they have powers they do not, and even if they once did, their days are numbered.
Ryan, great post about the absurdity of the elite "Educated" idiots that want to pretend lies are truth. I bet these idiots are triple jabbed and double boosted with a Bio-Weapon.. They probably viciously went after any pure blood that knew the Bio-Weapon was in fact a Bio-Weapon. They couldn't see the truth even when their wonderful Government talking head had to change the definition of a vaccine that had stood for over 70 years... Yep No clue there, their importance to themselves was the forefront of their knowledge... Early on Dr. David Martin had all the receipts you needed to look at to determine it was a Bio-Weapon... In the words of Forest Gump... Stupid is as stupid does.... Peace..
Yes I understand disinformation. I also understand election interference and Facebook has sent me to jail for the second time because I shared the story from two different sources about Joe Biden and his shower time with his daughter. Claimed it was nudity and I had shared nude body parts. What’s so infuriating is there’s nothing one can do to appeal these people.
A new story on Substack is Fauci lied People died is an excellent example of their dishonesty, not just disinformation. I think it’s the same thing. Calling us liars who write the stories and then we that share are the ones who get pooped on. This story is excellent . If you’re not familiar with it, I suggest you check it out. We have a whistleblower who has proof of the 15 intelligence agencies who knew about China and the development of Covid and did nothing about it. It’s worth the read. That’s another thing I got censored for. Sharing the truth about Covid and the vaccine. Permanently banned from twitter until Elon bought it.
Anyway, excellent article. You’re always on my radar. I like your work even if I don’t always agree with everything. Mostly everything. Thanks again
In the beginning of this article with the survey’s and for someone supporting these people and their views on how they should be able to censor one’s views or opinions to help Americans weed out the misinformation , I find hard to believe, I never am asked to conduct a survey! If our elections were secured and free from fraud , even though I don’t believe this should be a topic or having a debate on , but it should be held for all Americans to decide not just a select and then a idiot with a certificate to tell us how she deciphered the information and came up with her bias decision! We just see another survey that showed both democrats and republicans didn’t trust in the government! So how am I supposed to believe we now somehow have a overwhelming support to have some idiot decided our information for us! I can’t wait until trump returns to close down all these wasteful a jobs that this criminal organization that is in the White House created so push there Marxist agenda! What a joke ,Democrats are evil and if we had republicans that cared about there citizens instead of their bank accounts some of the rhetoric we hear like fraud would have actually been brought to the light and shown the rest of Americans in blue cities or states that it exists! Just like we witnessed in Connecticut with a Mayor and staff using a drop box to stuff ballots! One method of how they stole !
Thanks Ryan for this thoughtful article. I agree that censorship is NOT the answer.
Your article sparked so many thoughts. First, Stolen Elections have Catastrophic Consequences, BTW I cannot remember the last time a "law" was passed that benefitted me or my family. Second, MSM=LIES, including ALL polls. Third, our education system is totally broken and must be discarded and redesigned completely. I could go on but that hits the highlights.
We the People are the news now and we all need to share the Truth.
I sent a prophetic video to my good friend and she told me not to watch videos on rumble.com because it was 'free speech' and that was dangerous....she was born and raised in Seattle but has lived in CA the majority of her life. I corrected her that "Exactly! Free speech is guaranteed by our Constitution for exactly this reason and there is NOTHING wrong with it!" She agreed to disagree--oh, and she is a teacher, too. She is a good person--she just isn't real good at critical thinking or rational thought, either, come to think of it.
I remember when Starbird was a UW Husky basketball player. Makes you wonder the process of how these Deep State players become so entrenched into the system. I get the UW/Gates connection but how are these people approached and groomed, “hey, nice jump shot, want to rule the world.” 😂
probably multi-faceted. i suspect she has had some psychological trauma. sexual abuse probably, that is manipulated, exploited. not dissimilar to most everything else involving human psychology. sales. marketing. desire. coveting. what spiritual hole is most obvious? what spiritual hole is most susceptible?
😂 $
Ah, I knew her name sounded familiar…
Very intriguing article, Ryan.
The concept you pose here, "However, the danger of censorship will always outweigh the danger of free speech. Bad information should be allowed to be broken down and debated in public, where everyone’s understanding of the truth can be enriched and additional opinions can be offered.", makes me think about the conversations of our Founding Fathers and they were in-depth thinkers of their time.
Whether before or after the election, this will be something we Americans will have to think about and work through. Hopefully, the last 8 years has given us exercise in this endeavor. This was recently illustrated to me through a show of my favs on my fav media when my needle skipped off my record and scratched my surface. Cognitive Dissonance for me.
First and most important for me: I am and have always been a firm believer in President Trump and his leadership. In whatever form or crazy route it takes or whom he has on the ride with him at the time. Humanity depends on him if we are not to devolve into yesterday's speck of dust on yet another rock in the Universe.
Second is my intense life long interest in Space. Having grown up with an Aerospace engineer (Not NASA btw) from the 1930's in Michigan (home of my birthplace) I came upon that piece of conversation where influencers yet again share with many viewers their strong belief that the Moon Landing was fake and just a movie. Also, said news opinions are strong followers of President Trump. So we have two people from California who love our President Trump yet totally have come to a completely different view of Space. Q has stated on a post that the Moon Landings are real and in another post that considering the vastness of space, we are not alone.
Does this mean one of the two people's views are disseminating disinformation? Both have the free speech right to do so. One topic and we are off to the races again. At least we must attempt to do our homework regarding Space. I applaud you Ryan for doing your homework on this Disinformation occupation. Look forward to more to come.
Neither is necessarily disseminating disinformation. Disinformation requires intent to deceive.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/misinformation-vs-disinformation-get-informed-on-the-difference/
Information which is factually wrong is only disinformation if the speaker knows it is wrong and repeats it with intent to deceive. Otherwise, it is only a difference of opinion; and though it is possible for two takes to be mutually incompatible, that does not make either disinformation so long as the speakers believe what they are saying.
Since intent is difficult to prove, absent some sort of context, categorizing statements as 'disinformation' is problematic.
Which is why the only real solution to 'bad speech' is more speech. Let everyone have their say, and let the people figure it out.
But TPTB don't like that; [they] want you to believe whatever they say. And they hate being challenged.
Seems to me that there is a common thread amongst all of these disinformation czar-wannabs... they tend to fancy themselves well educated (more so than the average Joe) and as such actually know what's best for the great unwashed masses. Why they've gone to the best schools and in doing so have earned the moniker of "elite". Problem is that these dolts are "well educated" but not very intelligent. They can remember and spit out all of the BS that they have learned but they can't go beyond this point. (Layer on top of this the DEI crap and the situation gets worse). If you ever want to laugh your ass off - attend a Harvard alumni event....talk about pompous snobs who know precious little. Ok enough bloviating.... point is that these people are dangerous and are too stupid to know just how evil they are. Pax
Education is quite different from intelligence and primarily no longer includes analytical skills….as you noted….rote memorization….
Not to mention that these days, there's a pretty significant question about what sort of 'education' you even get these days at a place like Hah-vud.
True! I remember some statistics back in the day that equated newspapers to a 6th grade reading level…. I wonder if the study was done by an Ivy League grad…
You are SO RIGHT on most of the harvard grads--or MBA-holders from Harvard! My former boss had a harvard MBA and she was an in-your-face Leftist who actually spouted to me that Voter ID was discriminatory because black and poor people couldn't get ID... I was so incredulous and called her on it instantly. I questioned HOW people on welfare could get their checks, bank accounts, or buy alcohol or cigs WITHOUT ID....everyone has ID. She STILL didn't get it. Taht was THE most RACIST thing that ever came out of her mouth and she had NO CLUE. She had no clue about a lot of things! So glad I left that position. This was a good article and I question the charts' validity as to the number of 'republican's' who had stated they wee in favor of censorship--on either count. I don't know one single one that is for censorship. Everyone I know is for FREE SPEECH. Additionally, I live in the greater Seattle area! Not everyone is a liberal or leftist hack--however most of the CA transplants are living in la-la land! Whenever I am at a party, I am one of the few or only locals born and raised here. Things have truly changed--and NOT for the better.
These so called elitists biggest form of prejudice is the bigotry of low expectation. They literally think that all POC are the same - that they all walk lock-stepped (and are dumb). THese "elitists" are nothing more than "ass clowns". Likewise, though living in Seattle is beautiful....I'm not too sure I could handle the intellectual wasteland that it occupies. Interestingly, there is a good chance that all of this is about to change. Good times make weak people....that lead to hard times. Methinks that reality is going to be very harsh on these folks. Keep the faith. Pax
YES! God is going to CLEAN HOUSE of all the traitors. Many will be visited by the Angel of Death and we will no longer be able to find them! Gov't will go down to 10% so 90% will be gone; irrelevant or dead. Our money will change back to GOLD-backed and we have an abundance of it. The wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous! I live on the eastside now, thankfully! Everyone I strike up convos with is Conservative! Even the younger folks! I do have such high hopes for humanity and my faith is at an all time high! We were born for such a time as this! God hand-picked all of us to be here for the greatest show on earth! I stand ready to do my part and I am staying prayed up until God decides He's had a gutfull and CRUSHES all evil. Blessings to you, as well!
Onward Christian Solider 😎
Yes, and these self proclaimed fact checkers may also be unstable, as many suffer from the Trump Derangement Syndrome in addition to the run-of-the-mill god complex. I’m with you, Ryan, on relegating these folks to the trash bin, if they weren’t so hilariously close-minded.
God bless you, Ryan.🙏🙏
Waterboarding is the cure for TDS...pass it on......
"Ooohhh, I LOVE surfing!!"
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[Their] closed-mindedness is exactly why they should be relegated to the trash bin.
Excellent article Ryan Delarme love your deep dive in exposing the charade of lies ! TY for all you do
Those votes in the Michigan county were indeed changed. Our Dem Attorney General says not to worry, it was just a clerical error. You can claim it was just a mistake but you can't claim it didn't happen. Michigan resident/
and did the error result in electoral votes for Biden that should have been for Trump, then it's material clerical error which demands reconciliation.
I believe they were fixed. It was really only found because a deep red county in a sea of red counties flipped blue. The real problem was the gazillion ballots delivered by truck in the middle of the night to Detroit. You're a conspiracy theorist is you bring that up.
Because that's the one that did result in electoral votes for Biden...
Okay. I stopped at Nina Jankowicz. Mostly because these two Jankowicz and Starbird will very soon be irrelevant. But, I thought this would be important to know for your audience. Both Starbird are MTF trans. I am an expert Transvestigater, but my skill wasn't needed here. As the song says "just one look, is all it took". All that's needed is awareness. What do I mean? When looking at anyone with the CIA or it's affiliates (MSM, Hollywood, TV, even your local TV, etc.) assume you are being presented with a trans. They are truly trying to eliminate real women. Now that you see it, you can't Unsee it! These two were very easy to spot!
Thanks Ryan! As always, your thorough and thoughtful approach provides the kind of foundational information that makes it comfortable (if not enjoyable) to engage in (or at least attempt to engage) rational conversation with the unwitting foot-soldiers of the 1984 brigade.
This is where mass formation psychosis turns into dystopian nightmare for me. The fact that 1/3 of the right leaning population beleives that big tech SHOULD BE censoring public discourse is horrifying. To me. People used to be prickly about their privacy, they valued it and held it tightly. Then they accepted "I've done nothing wrong, so I've nothing to hide." and now they've already jumped into the pot of accepting - demanding - online censorship EVEN IN SPITE OF all the COVID disinfo we suffered from 2019 to now.
This is absolutely insane and sickening.
Intensely insane! Even conservatives often have no ability to discern and think analytically….
"28% of Republicans—a much lower number, but still one out of every four—believe that the government has the right and should be performing this function.
Now we know what percentage of Republicans are RINOs. 28%.
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There was no attribution of the data. I don't believe it one bit. probably more into the single digits on the PRO and high double digits on the AGAINST censorship. I was never consulted for a survey.
That 1/3 may be the new converts since Biden, lets hope. They may just have one leg off of the plantation or half their head out of their ###. Education is required BIGTIME!
I think a lot of them might actually be naive enough, or stupid enough, to think, "Well, then we would only get the truth, and not all those dangerous lies."
Yup. Question is: truth according to whom?
There is only one real Truth, as revealed to us by God and His Son. All the rest is opinion.
Amen!
And I find it really telling that they keep getting these young whacko's to be the arbitors or TRUTH....WHY NOT someone with WISDOM and EXPERIENCE who is in the 70-80's? Although NO ONE from current or former CONgress need apply!
Another Weirdo of the Left...."KATE". She reminds me of the character 'PAT' on Saturday Night Live. Is she a woman or a man? NO, shes just "KATE"
The artist's illustration in this excellent article is way too flattering!
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The belief that both Government and Tech should censor speech is based on past evidence that the left can control the outcome, a capability which has been lost long ago. They assume they have powers they do not, and even if they once did, their days are numbered.
Ryan, great post about the absurdity of the elite "Educated" idiots that want to pretend lies are truth. I bet these idiots are triple jabbed and double boosted with a Bio-Weapon.. They probably viciously went after any pure blood that knew the Bio-Weapon was in fact a Bio-Weapon. They couldn't see the truth even when their wonderful Government talking head had to change the definition of a vaccine that had stood for over 70 years... Yep No clue there, their importance to themselves was the forefront of their knowledge... Early on Dr. David Martin had all the receipts you needed to look at to determine it was a Bio-Weapon... In the words of Forest Gump... Stupid is as stupid does.... Peace..
Yes I understand disinformation. I also understand election interference and Facebook has sent me to jail for the second time because I shared the story from two different sources about Joe Biden and his shower time with his daughter. Claimed it was nudity and I had shared nude body parts. What’s so infuriating is there’s nothing one can do to appeal these people.
A new story on Substack is Fauci lied People died is an excellent example of their dishonesty, not just disinformation. I think it’s the same thing. Calling us liars who write the stories and then we that share are the ones who get pooped on. This story is excellent . If you’re not familiar with it, I suggest you check it out. We have a whistleblower who has proof of the 15 intelligence agencies who knew about China and the development of Covid and did nothing about it. It’s worth the read. That’s another thing I got censored for. Sharing the truth about Covid and the vaccine. Permanently banned from twitter until Elon bought it.
Anyway, excellent article. You’re always on my radar. I like your work even if I don’t always agree with everything. Mostly everything. Thanks again
In the beginning of this article with the survey’s and for someone supporting these people and their views on how they should be able to censor one’s views or opinions to help Americans weed out the misinformation , I find hard to believe, I never am asked to conduct a survey! If our elections were secured and free from fraud , even though I don’t believe this should be a topic or having a debate on , but it should be held for all Americans to decide not just a select and then a idiot with a certificate to tell us how she deciphered the information and came up with her bias decision! We just see another survey that showed both democrats and republicans didn’t trust in the government! So how am I supposed to believe we now somehow have a overwhelming support to have some idiot decided our information for us! I can’t wait until trump returns to close down all these wasteful a jobs that this criminal organization that is in the White House created so push there Marxist agenda! What a joke ,Democrats are evil and if we had republicans that cared about there citizens instead of their bank accounts some of the rhetoric we hear like fraud would have actually been brought to the light and shown the rest of Americans in blue cities or states that it exists! Just like we witnessed in Connecticut with a Mayor and staff using a drop box to stuff ballots! One method of how they stole !
People who trust and respond to surveys are sheep. Independent thinkers understand the game and refuse to play.
View all 'survey results' through such a lens.
Thanks Ryan for this thoughtful article. I agree that censorship is NOT the answer.
Your article sparked so many thoughts. First, Stolen Elections have Catastrophic Consequences, BTW I cannot remember the last time a "law" was passed that benefitted me or my family. Second, MSM=LIES, including ALL polls. Third, our education system is totally broken and must be discarded and redesigned completely. I could go on but that hits the highlights.
We the People are the news now and we all need to share the Truth.
Great work.
God Wins!
God Bless!!!
I sent a prophetic video to my good friend and she told me not to watch videos on rumble.com because it was 'free speech' and that was dangerous....she was born and raised in Seattle but has lived in CA the majority of her life. I corrected her that "Exactly! Free speech is guaranteed by our Constitution for exactly this reason and there is NOTHING wrong with it!" She agreed to disagree--oh, and she is a teacher, too. She is a good person--she just isn't real good at critical thinking or rational thought, either, come to think of it.
Kate is a douche bag and full of shit! Period!!!